Monday, 4 February 2013

HARARE WOMAN : I HAD A MIRACLE BABY

A Harare woman has claimed that she has had a miracle baby. It took only three days from having sex to giving birth, she has claimed live on Radio Zimbabwe.


The woman, Mrs Moffat from Chitungwiza was interviewed live on Radio Zimbabwe by radio talk show host Tilda Moyo.

Mr and Mrs Moffat confirmed the miracle during the radio programme as the woman narrated what really took place. Sharing her testimony, Mrs Moffat said she had normal menstrual periods which ended on 15th November 2012. She revealed that on 16 November the couple got intimate, just like would do on any other day.

On the 18th of November 2012 when the couple went to UFI Church, founded by flamboyant preacher, Prophet Emmanuel Makandiwa, who, during the service, prayed for female congregants who had pregnancies with complications.

The woman said Prophet Makandiwa declared that there would be a miracle pregnancy and deliverance within a space of hours, days and weeks and that is when Mrs Moffat began experiencing some signs of labour pains on her back and on the belly.

"When I started having these pains I was rushed to doctors in town who prescribed me some medication to buy at a local pharmacy. On our way to Chitungwiza, where we stay, my husband and I jumped into a kombi. That is when my condition further deteriorated and my belly miraculously ballooned. It instantly grew to the size of a pregnant woman and both of us got surprised," she said.

The mother of the miracle baby said they urged the kombi driver to increase speed and rush them to Chitungwiza Hospital.

"After narrating my signs and symptoms to a nurse at the hospital, she instructed me to go straight to the labour room. This shocked both my husband and I. I later gave birth to a miracle bouncing baby boy whom we named Emmanuel," she revealed.

Tilda asked if the couple had planned to have another baby and the woman had this to say:"We had not planned to have another baby because we already had 2 children. However I think the prophet's faith is the one that brought this miracle," she said.

"Where on earth have you heard that? Even Jesus himself, son of God who performed so many miracles and was born of a virgin, had to endure nine full months in His mother's womb. What kind of a miracle is that where a woman gets pregnant and gives birth within 3 days? There is no God who responsible for such a miracle," said Tapiwa Mujuru, a Methodist Church's former Bulawayo youth leader.

111 comments:

Zvimwe itai muchiyara mhani papa! Udzai vatendi vezita renyu kwete raMwari kuti zvimwe zvinonyadzisa as miracles! Not this crap!Mxm. Its now semessing (kusemesa).

Zvikwambo zvamurikuberekeswa izvi. Zvichazoti zvodhuuka sechekuZengeza chokuramba kufa....

Regai vadye mari dzemarema.. hah what foolishness, it's akin to finding and believing that PROCESSED diesel would ooze out of a granite rock.. oh cry the beloved country. What happened to the once great nation that is Zimbabwe.. Zvitokoroshi kuwandisa

Veduwe ka!hameno.vanhu ngavachenjerere nokuti ava mazuva okupedzisira. I rest my case asi look out for the signs of the end nemasimba asatan.

Apa maita kuti zvisemese

Musatiudza zvisina basa, brati furu. Itai zvezvikwambo zvenyu muri mudzimba dzenyu makanyarara. Nonsense.

Manetswa nei nhai varume nevakadzi vanotenda mwari chaiye iye.REGAIWO NDIDYE Mari yemarombe.Ndakazvuudzwawo na GILBERT DHEYA kana muchamuziva uyo ari britain.Uyo ane mukadzi ari mujeri ku kenya and iye is fighting extradiction to kenya for trial on stealing babes.Mashiripiti ka atinoita neshamwari yangu herbert mudzanhire uyo wamunoziva nere basa rekuti Uerbert Angel

INi chandiri kuda IMiracle money,vakandipa handirambi.

And futika!!!!! I will reserve my comment!!!

iyi yakora yakuda amai chisamba.

With all due respect to religion and faith, this is bullshit. We all make headlines for the wrong reasons. And, who in his/her normal mind listens to ZBC in this sovereign state, that was won through the fallen blood of our comrades and the barrel of the gun?

That woman was pregnant for months! Stop tarnishing God's name please. People of Zimbabwe, stop believing these cheap stories.

Vakaba mwana amai ava. She is trying to come up with an explanation of how she got the baby suddenly. Mapurisa ndavaite basa apa.

makushatisa machechi enyu manje neminanana yenyu isina kana nenjere. Kukenya theylater reliased kuti vaiba vana vaMuprofita, then voi vanhu inhumbu dzemunana
This is just bad, why do we want to make people hate out churches

Makandiwa akutijairira manje.....dai ati akanamatirwa ari constipated akamama dhodhi hombe in 3 dayz zvirinani.....vanhu vatadza kunzwa hanzi aisamama adya nyimo akazomama after 3 dayz.......mwana asina bvudzi......kwete mwana anofema ndaramba ...ndozvinonzi zvekudhota manje izvi

Inobva yachinja kuita majuru iri muhomwe mako unorumwa nhengo ukazvirega

People never learn asi havana kumbonzwa nezva Gilbert Deya?

Kusaziva kufa uye kunodadisa.

Batai munhu is all I can say .

Ndafara nedhiziri padombo, can't believe kuti nyaya yedhiziri ingangorova yakadaro... My day is full now...hahaha, Rotinha Mavhunga legend...hahaha...

You cannot fool all the people all the time, one day God will ask you Emmanuel Makabndiwa and Hubert Angel Mudzanhire what are you doing with his people. Some of us understand that Lucifer is equally clever like Jesus Christ and can perform more miracles and his results are quicker,while with Jesus you have to be patient. This child is actually a demon and this family will forever see no piece. Chidhodhamudhara chidhoma chaicho. Hakuna zvakadaro ivo vanotonga nyika ino varipi mashura akadai achiitika munyika. Are we so stupid and ignorant as a nation or poverty is into our brain to the level of being so brainwashed by these miracle devil worshippers?

Makazvara chikwambo chaMakandiwa amai imi musatombo zvipembedza.Chinemhiko chikwambo ichocho and the devil is working very hard.....

Hanzi @ present zvitokoroshi outbreak chaiyo zvekuti hapana munhu asina hama inacho. Kikiki. Reported zvizhinji zvacho zvava kushandisa vanhu vari diaspora. Beware.

now that we ve heard them....ie the couple....the woman n her husband...n they ve baby....full term....if they are to be believed..and there should be winesses to it ie family members ,.,neighbours etc....how is such a phenomenon to be explained..without sarcasm etc...this is serious business..and shouldnt be taken lightly l think..lets hear some serious n well thought out posts..for a change...

We believe in a Miracle working God. its surprising how people believe that its onlythe devil who is capable of perfoming miracles. so you guys are saying Satan is the only one who can do miracles and not God. i think its wise kuti kana munhu usinganzwisise zvirikuitika unyarare pane kutaura zvausingazive nekuti kana ma curses akuuya anokuwira wega nemhuri yako vaikupa manyemwe ekutaura zvausingazive vasipo. the Bible rinoti; touch not my annointed ones. kana wachiita zvakashata, why dont you keep quiet and let God do the Judging. if they are not of God, why dont you the holy ones pray and cast out the devils you say these prophets have? Jesu chaiye mwanakomana WaMwari paakaita ma miracles vanhu vaingoti "he has a devil." so can you guys tell us any man of God you believe is
genuine. If there is anyone who fears God, before you judge,dai zvaibvira wanamata kuna Mwari for devine revelation kuti Vakutaurire chokwadi about these prophets.i believe in the Prophets and all the miracles and some i have witnessed with mine own eyes and some have happened to me and i am believing God for more miracles upon me and those who believe in the prophets. i pray that the Grace of our Lord Jesus falls upon you guys and the Holy spirit may reveal trueth kwamuri. Thank you Jehovah for the gift of the prophets to our country. May you continue to bless and use them through more miracles. proudly Mwana wa Prophet Makandiwa.

Vanhu vachazvara zvidhoma and then they will try to use landmines to detonate the demonic babies.

zijuru zihombe-hombe riya...haaa anonya chete uyu...lol

Kamwana kacho kaBest Before....Kanoenda manje-manje

let me start.....if this man believes in the same God who through his Word created the heavens and the earth and all that is in the earth...and if he believes in and confesses that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died and rose again on the third day and is seated at the right hand of the father..and he believes in the power of the Holy Ghost..(which apparently he does) he ie this man, meets the test as laid down in 1 John 4;1-8...and if Jesus himself said that those that believe him will perform signs and wonders..and further says that for those who believe in Him greater things than these they shall shall perform...is it inconceivable that such things can happen..is this not a demonstration of the creative power of God?....is this not a fulfillment of scripture? am just asking..kuti if God is God can he fail to create again? inyaya huru ka iyi hama dzangu nekuti pari kunzi pane mwana anofema apa who has been confirmed to be a real human being....ndabvunzawo apa and quoted the bible..for those of my fellow Christians who believe...and it is these that l would appreciate if we could dialogue..as for the rest it would be difficult coz we are not coming from the same angle....take note l do not go to UFI but have taken time to listen to his teachings from material l got from some of them

Idzi ingano. Dzepfunde!

My take into the whole issue of miracles is that God is not a God of confusion.If there is one thing i have learnt in my christian life is that God respects order very much this whole confusion happening in Zimbabwe lives me wondering whether this is of God.Then i have also learnt that God is not n'anga thats why he uses people to perform his miracles.If God did this miracle then what is it that we are to understand from this.These people have 2 children already its not like they were having problems with concieving so what is this miracle.What i believe is that God will not create the kind of circus that i have witnessed so far,if you are not a doctor God will not give you that job just to prove that he is God.If you dont study you cant just pray so that you pass then God becomes a joke.Here were we are people talk about schools of prophesy and i have argued and said if you have to go to school and learn how to prophesy then where does God come in because everybody can go and learn how to do it.Like i said this my own understanding on Godly things.

Gilbert Deya fooled people the same way when he was busy stealing babies, dai pasina kuti akazobatwa dai vanhu vaimuteera vachiri kumubeliever up to now. There is no way you can explain a 3 day pregnancy mai ava ngavataure chokwadi otherwise chikwambo.

well there was a school of prophesy particularly in the Old Testament...check in the books of Kings ie schools from which Elijah and Elisha came from .part of its purpose is to understand prophesy not necessarily to teach pple how to prophesy..prophesy is a gift which like any other needs to be developed..l do agree that God is not the author of confusion... but lm still trying to figure out where the confusion is..in this case...well from my understanding of how this happenned is that a call was made for women to come forward and this one was among those that came...whether she wanted another one or not its something else..but at least she was not specifically picked out from the congregation for this particular miracle..why she got a child when she had 2 already ..good question..lve got no answer as well...it may become apparent in the future..but one thing l know is that each and everyone of us was created for a particular purpose.in life..and God knows..its for us to find out why God created you at the time He did. its also true that miracles are done for a purpose..which is generally to give God the Glory...like you my bro lm also wanting to learn and understanding lm not defending anyone or endorsing am just questioning things for better understanding...

thanks you raise some very interesting points

mmmm l hear you about Gilbert Deya..( l also dont know why and you have not given any reason to suggest why she would be lying)...here we are working on the assumption that what we ve heard from the pple concerned is true given that they re the ones directly involved and so far we do not have any facts/ evidence to suggest that foul play is at play...my question was on the basis of what the Word of God says....if you recall we were saying is it impossible for God to create a baby in three days if he was able to create the heavens and the earth.in six days..well you seem to believe or find it easier to believe that chikwambo (powers of darkness) are able to..but God is unable to.( this is the impression l get from your post l could be wrong)..is it your point then that zvikwambo powers of darkness have more creative power than God?...well you have not also told us why the Word of God as l quoted above is not applicable to this phenomenon and why it can only be a Chikwambo. by the way do you believe in what the bible says as quoted above if you dont then well we dont need to continue with this discourse.

No thats not a baby kana chiri chikwambo. You just need to be real how can someone be pregnant for three days? Anyway it happens the world over people give birth and claim not to know that they were pregnant to start with. If she says that then I mite say I have heard it all before kwete izvi zvekunzi miracle. People just enjoy being fooled.

Well thanks pal abt the school of prophesy thing i will check it out in the holy book.Coming to this issue at hand i believ that God is able to do more than we can ask for but does he just do it to satisfy our curriosity ,i dont think so.Like i said God does not need to prove to us that he is God and going to this couple i find it odd that God all knowing knew that this couple are not looking to have a baby at all so why give them this child that they cannot explain.When Jesus was being born God had to explain to Marry and also her fiancee before so that they wont be confused. Also Jesus did not perform miracles when confronted by satan when he said you shall not tempt God.The so called miracles/prophesies in Zimbabwe right now are happening almost every day and i am sure the bible says a prophesy will come to pass before another one is said.Correct me if i am wrong.The problem that we are having now is people kutikisa mwari over things that are trivial.I think the greatest beiever is the one that Jesus said happy is the one who believes without seeing for many shall follow miracles and wanders.

Again if the baby was a miracle baby was there any need for the woman's belly to suddenly balloon.Was there someone in the Kombi to say she got in with a flat tammy and now it just ballooned?

nonsense!....Folktales....once upon a time. Munyika kusine eductation here?

Maria Musande Ndimi makabereka Jesu. Dzefunde

if you believe this 'miracle baby' nonsense you can believe absolutely anything!!

iyo yenyu yekungoti touch not yeee the annointed ones,...mukadzi akagara ane nhumbu kudara uyu kana kuti akaba mwana muchipatara...Jesus the Holly one was born after 9 good months....chasamisa pana makandiwa chii...why are his miracles trying to defy nature all the time...

this atha day was watching a clip on tv of a woman who ddnt knw she was pregnant until the day she gave birth...she was going n her periods every mnth as normall as any atha mnth, only to feel cramps one day and taken to a hos[ital only to be discovered she is 9mnths preg.....this woman was a long way pregnant she jus ddnt knw or she s jus fooling peopl....Mwari zvaanoita zvese zvakarongelka kwete izvizvi.....mmmmm

l do not think that anyone in their right mind enjoys being fooled...as you suggest....well my conclusion from your posts is that you do not believe its a baby...its a chikwambo...ther is no such miracle...God is not capable of creating a baby.....but a chikwambo can....this woman was pregnant and she didnt know it..but at the end of the day God does not have the powers to perform miracles through men

John 14:12 says “whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do, and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father. We are a generation marked to do the works of Jesus even greater works which might never be found in the Bible. Kune vasingatendi, muchangosara makadaro isu mabasa makuru arikuitwa na Jehova tichimaona. As for me ndinotoda mwana we one day chaiyo uye ari ma quads kuti ZVITYISE, Jehova vagopiwa mbiri

First of all DNA to ascertain kuti mwana ndewa baba ava here. Baba nhiya tigere zvedu tichiti mwana wemunana ivo vamwe vakadya zvavo. Secondly, if DNA proves the man is the father let it be known all man every where that it is possible to continue passing some blood even if you are pregnant.

Truly who are we to judge???? The bible talks about those who believe doing even greater miracles than those in the bible. yes its true satanism is also looming in the whole world but the wise should seek God's revelation and pray for the spirit of discernment. Remember we will account for all the actions and words we say. Let us be cautious

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ndati batai munhu vakomana musatundirwe mumusoro mhani

ha izvi zvanyanya zvikwambo zviri pachena. gore rino iro rino

Then Jesus answered and said, “O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him here to Me.” 18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him; and the child was cured from that very hour.

19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, “Why could we not cast it out?”

20 So Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief;[d]
for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you
will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move;
and nothing will be impossible for you. 21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”[e]

This woman was pregnant and just didnt know it, it is a miracle for her in the sense that she had a baby but didnt know she was pregnant period! That is nonsense about her having sex, conceiving then delivering within three day. Utter utter nonsense. Mary carried Jesus for 9 months, which is enough time for the baby to form and grow in the womb. If this lady thinks back to the past nine months of her life and she is honest with herself, she will realise that the symptoms where there but she ignored them, because as she stated herself, they had not planned to have another child.

She claims her stomach miraculously grew in the kombi. Where are the witnesses to that effect, I dont think they would keep such a "miracle" to themselves.
Beware of false prophets and their followers.

The time is just by the corner. The Bible states that if u c these miracles happening remember that judgement day is about the corner. Pregnancy & concieving in 3days? Even the Messiah endured 9 fully month in Mary's womb and is the only one on earth who had a unque creation becoz he was born from a virgin Mother. Beware Beware of Goblins. I think the husband is too fool to be deceived, there is no reason to joy, uchapiwa vana vevamwe nhumbu yaisungwa iyi.

Jimalo, we need to differentiate between God's powers and people abusing His name, people doing minana and claiming it is God. I have no problem with God performing wonders, He always does every minute. But we also need to listen to Jesus telling us to be aware of false prophets, and it does seem that we are experiencing quite a meteoric rise in such prophets.

Mr Moffat should take a DNA test on this kid.

Matthew 24:24-25

New International Version (NIV)

24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

Mukoma Jimalo, i read the bible and i have noticed that even the great prophets would say by this time next year, meaning to say they understood the principle of timing, yes the heavens and earth were created in 6 days but the time for pregnancy is 9 months. Do we have any history of such a miracle in the bible...of people having babies- Yes....in 3 days-NO. In my opinion this lady was already pregnant and it is my suspicion also that the husband is not the father of the baby but the wife wants him to believe that it's his miracle baby.

This indeed is the power of God,call it juju or what but i stand in testimony of this miracle,brethren we are in the era of signs and wonders, i would advise if you do not know the miraculous and do not understand the prophetic do not comment but rather keep quiet on these issues or ask God to reveal it to you!!!!Prophet E Makandiwa is a man of humble nature and indeed used by God,the bible warns us not to touch his annointed,it did not mean literally touch but meant judging and persecuting any man of God. I am proudly mwana we Muporofita and blessed are those that receive a prophet, they will obtain a prophets reward

Say what ever you want people One day You will receive the light and see what we are seing.Even our Lord Jesus christ was criticised a lot for his mighty power yet He says greater works than these you shall do. Ok can you tell me people wat greater weks are there dzinopfuura kumutsa munhu akafa like he did and yet he said so.Instant miracles are there Elisha said ´tomorrow at this time a measure of fine flour shall be sold at the gate..... Someone chose to doubt it and the Man of God declared u will c it bt u wont partake of it watch out. Saka i wont be moved by wat people say coz its just a repeat of wat happened. You have not seen anything yet watch this space

Anga akapfekei before when her stomach started miroculously growing chakaramba chichikwana. I hope anga asina maternity dress kare. Anyway we cant argue with her because she knows best what exactly happened and whether she is just making stories. I am sure even Makandiwa himself is surprised by such stories.

So you really believe that her "belly miraculously ballooned". Inhamo here chiiko vanhu kungo believer zvese zvese, how come these things never used to happen kudhara and all of a sudden miracles left right and centre? Does that mean kuti vanhu vainamata kare vanga vasinganamate nemazvo. The government needs to do something to regulate these churches otherwise the brainwashing is getting ridiculous now.

Angel akarova a faster one we one day!

First of all there is nowhere in the bible where it says Jesus was born after nine months,there is no verse like that.Nine months is a time that was set by the world and it came after the curse when Adam disobeyed God in the garden of Eden.We are no longer living under the law or under the curse coz Jesus set us free we are now living under grace.Why is it that there are some babies who are born overdue, even 11 months overdue but noone asks questions but if God decides to perform a miracle and a baby is born before time hanzi zvaitirwei?We can never be able to question God why He does what He does because that is the whole idea,to show that He is God.If you can explain and reason out a miracle then it is no longer a miracle.It is like asking why did Jesus walk on water when there was a boat he could have used. He actually told His disciples to go and He remained behind praying.So would you then ask why He did that, why did He not just get into the boat.It is for the demonstration of the power of God for people to believe in Him.Even when Hezekiah was told to ask for any sign he wanted and the time was moved backwards by God,that was to just show that He is God.It is high time people believe in God and not in satan so much to be quick to judge kuti ndisatan are you saying satan has more power than God?

u are very right ,,,there is a need to differentiate God's powers from others thats exactly what we are trying to do ...and urging pple not to just accept without checking with the bible as well as not to just condemn and dismiss phenomenon without checking or giving a basis for such dismissal or condemnation

it is not a question of be believing anything...u will recall the the first point of call for me was that now we have heard the testimony ie first hand testimony of the pple involved...whom l have no reason not to doubt their testimony.....(well maybe you have a basis and evidence that they are lying).in which case l would be glad to hear your side of the story,....as l told you lm very open minded...and try to do my own research...l get the impression that you are an armchair critic.who relies on own intuition and beliefs without doing any checkin for yourself or even readibg the bible for you ve not given me any information upon which you base your thoughts and opinion outside of what you think..thats what l was looking for....if you check what others were doing

well can we limit God my bro....isnt it that Christ himself said greater miracles than these they shall perfom they that believe..and he said that after raising someone from the dead what greater miracle than that.would he have had in mind...he also said that signs and wonders shall follow them that believe...are we to doubt God's Word...it seems we do read the Word but we do not believe ..in it though we profess to be belivers
if we are believers why do we doubt things done in the name of God and seem to find it easier to attribute miracles to powers of darkness which seem to be more real to us than God is...there is also what is called a spirit of unbelief..am not saying you have it ,,,no..am just trying to understand why if pple believe in the Almighty they still try to limit His ability to create or perfom miracles and limit Him to their own understanding..would he still be God then..if He only does that which we limit him to do...this debate is getting more interesting

Blaz muri saskamu - you believe in virgin births and miracles ? :-)

Mukoma Jimalo it doesn't mean that everything done in the name of God is from God, remember Jesus saying many shall come in my name......... The bible is our benchmark by which we should weigh some of these things. Even Paul says that anyone who comes with something different from what is in the word of God should be cursed, even if it is an angel.

Three day miracles is there in the Bible. Jacob caused an increased on his father in laws' flock in 3 days. Read Genesis 30:34-43

34And Laban said, Behold, I would it might be according to thy
word.

35And he removed that day the he goats that were ring-streaked and spotted, and all the she goats that were speckled and spotted, and every one that had some white in it, and all the brown among the sheep, and gave them into the hand of his sons.

36And he set three days' journey betwixt himself and Jacob: and Jacob fed the rest of Laban's flocks.

37And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chestnut tree; and pilled white streaks in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.

38And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.

39And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle
ring-streaked, speckled, and spotted.

40And Jacob did separate the lambs, and set the faces of the flocks toward the ring-streaked, and all the brown in the flock of Laban; and he put his own flocks by themselves, and put them not unto Laban's cattle.

41And it came to pass, whensoever the stronger cattle did conceive, that Jacob laid the rods before the eyes of the cattle in the gutters, that they might conceive among the rods.

42But when the cattle were feeble, he put them not in: so the feebler were Laban's, and the stronger Jacob's.

43And the man increased exceedingly, and had much cattle, and maidservants, and menservants, and camels, and asses.

Three day miracles is there in the Bible. Jacob caused an increased on his father in laws' flock in 3 days. Read Genesis 30:34-43

34And Laban said, Behold, I would it might be according to thy
word.

35And he removed that day the he goats that were ring-streaked and spotted, and all the she goats that were speckled and spotted, and every one that had some white in it, and all the brown among the sheep, and gave them into the hand of his sons.

36And he set three days' journey betwixt himself and Jacob: and Jacob fed the rest of Laban's flocks.

37And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chestnut tree; and pilled white streaks in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.

38And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.

39And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle
ring-streaked, speckled, and spotted.

40And Jacob did separate the lambs, and set the faces of the flocks toward the ring-streaked, and all the brown in the flock of Laban; and he put his own flocks by themselves, and put them not unto Laban's cattle.

41And it came to pass, whensoever the stronger cattle did conceive, that Jacob laid the rods before the eyes of the cattle in the gutters, that they might conceive among the rods.

42But when the cattle were feeble, he put them not in: so the feebler were Laban's, and the stronger Jacob's.

43And the man increased exceedingly, and had much cattle, and maidservants, and menservants, and camels, and asses.

when the angels visited Abraham and Sarah they were told that next season this time meaning 9months,same to Samuele's mother and Mary the mother Of JESUS.BELOVED OF GOD LET US BE CAREFUL THESE PROPHETS ARE NOT FROM GOD ,YES THEY ARE CALLING THEMSELVES SO ,BUT THE OTHER WAY IS TRUE THEY ARE FROM THE DEVIL.ISAIAH 8V20 READ ,THESE GUYS NOT PROPHETS ARE PLAYING GOOD AND SMART NIGERIAN TRICKS ,GUYS STUDY TO SHOW THY SELF APPROVED OF GOD.IF THEY SAT NO TO THIS I AM READY TO REVEAL THEM ONLY BY THE WORD OF GOD.

good thats my point...but am going further to say that before we accept or deny/ define dismiss certain phenomenon lets us carry out proper invetsigations and come to conclusion based on facts kwete kungo ita dismiss or accept...we dont want to keep going round the issue..lets carry it forward with facts

lets get into detail and show us kuti chisina kurongeka apa chii and in what respect mhofu

its possible kugezera mwana for 9 months each month getting a period handizvitsva, this woman was doing the same, endai munovhunza ana mbuya kumusha musatinyaudza pano nemamiracle.

This one is a child, i know God takes time with humans that y its 9 months NT 3 days

The reference to three days in the article you quote is in that Laban went away on a three day journey (verse 36). Yes in Verse 39 the bible says "they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted." There is therefore no reason to infer from this passage that the animals bore their young in three days from conception. Be that as it may, there is nothing new here, this same scam was done by Gilbert Deya Ministries of Kenya and he was found out about ten years ago. My advice to you hama yangu is "isa kutenda kwako pana Mwari."


Even if these boys resurrect someone, give the blind their sight, make the lame walk,cure Aids, leprosy and cancer (you notice of course that none of them are doing this), you must still give the glory to God and not to them. Ndinorwadziwa when I see someone with a sticker that says "ndiri mwana wemuporofita". When are you going to become a child of God?


God bless you.

In my very limited understanding of this topic i would venture to share my humble opinion. Jesus has referred to the devil as the prince of this world, while he doesn't have complete dominion, he does run this world.This is for a limited time before Jesus comes back to take his people to "His Father's house". The devil can do signs and wonders for all he need them. As Rasta put it , there was always a deep lesson to be gotten from every miracle and everyone was always told what is happening and prepared for it. I dont want to limit God but i too believe he is not for circuses and I believe this ministry is a circus and a lure.

You see l think we do agree in most respects...my issue with pple is with our application of what the bible says to the phenomenon which we are seeing today..this is where we really need to get proper facts of what is really going on ..and for that the source of information is very important..as we always say..a lot of us seem to rely on what we read in papers.. you come to the conclusion that what is happening is a circus...and some say it is from the devil which are quite very strong words/ conclusions. it is not my position or intention to change your opinion/position about whats happening..my concern is that for one to come up with a credible opinion on something they would need to have checked the facts for themselves....personal experience is also very important..for no one can challenge someone's personal experience...like one of my sisters here was disputing the experience of the lady who says she had a miracle baby...l do not know why or where she got the guts to dispute the personal experiences of this lady...but if you were not there when it happened why should you give an opinion about things for which yu ve got no personal experience of.....well you say its a circus..so is what the religiuos pple of the day said about Jesus..(iiii lest l get misquoted am not saying Jesus is here) well lve seen many very educated very respectable men and women who are far higher in many respects to me go there day in day out..in their numbers...pple who would not stoop so low for circuses....maybe its a question of faith and conviction...as well as diligent study of the bible...(well as l said l wouldnt really debate with nominal christians (not being derogatory here, but l use the term to refer to religiuos pple who do not have a meaningful relationship with Christ..and who do not really read the Bible with diligence and understanding) because those in the flesh who are not very spiritiual do not understand the thigs of the spirit...so says the bible..such pple are normally ones who shout the loudest and influence other pple's views..zvimwe zvacho zviri distorted coz of various factors such as prejudice (in particular religious prejudice such as what the Pharises had and caused them to kill Jesus for caliing himself the son of God and yet they claimed to read the very scriptures which spoke of HIM

God has no grandchildren. He has sons and daughters. When are you going to be God's child?

Maranatha! dai ishe vachidzoka tisati tariska zvakanyanya veduwe..

Why are Zimbabweans so easily fooled into believing this superstitious nonsense...the claim of falling pregnant and giving birth within three days makes no sense, how this story is even newsworthy is beyond me. Its very possible that some women can go through pregnancy while having their normal menstrual cycle, its also very possible though not common for some women to become pregnant and go through the whole pregnancy without them ever knowing. this woman has has made an extraordinary claim that goes completely against human biology. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

3 days here zveshuwa!!!....this is all demonic; but one thing is for sure, mwana iyeyo will not grow to a ripe old age like other kids coz zvikwambo izvi....

Jimalo have a purpose and i do not see the purpose for having a baby conceived and delivered in three days and i believe if it is God who sent this miracle then it has caused more confusion than increasing our faith becoz miracles are meant to increase the faith of believers and trust in God. A miracle is not there for the sake of it being a miracle but a purpose but i dont understand y God will perform such a miracle

mmmm well thats you...but have you also considered what effect it would ve had on others..ie the pple concerned...their relatives.may be the.purpose is yet to be revealed..or it might have served some purpose to other pple other than yourself...we might not understand everything. l do not understand a lot of things but l do not just dismiss them cause l dont understand them l try to find out why....if you are confused then pray for understanding..remember the flesh does not understand the things of the spirit...unless one asks the spirit for understanding... ..have u considered that in these days when God did create the heavens n the earth a long time ago we might ve lost the sense that God has creative power.that God is the Creator what if He wants to remind us that He has the power to create..thats what l see in this...it could be that he wants to demonstrate in this unbelieving generation that He is the God of creation..there are so many unbelievers out there many of who are on this forum...l dont have the answer but wanted us to think of these possibilities

Bro Jimalo quick question if this event has really happened why is it only garnering attention on this forum.This should be an event that triggers the world to relook the truth of the gospel.We have not heard anything from the prophets confirming this miracle of great magnitude more than the money miracles.The problem i see my brother is we christians are trying to validate God.God is God with or without miracles.The birth of a 3 day baby does not validate his existence .I believe in the living God and i hate it when christians spend more time discussing or justifying him.God does not need anyone to defend him so he says the battle is mine.

mmmm the media has lots to do with this...the way l see things.....these guys have not said too much about themselves except as provoked by and in response to the media frenzy....as for this baby issue l heard the lady in question was on radio...and as for me l was with a person who saw and heard the woman testify well have no reason to disbelieve them...well as for us trying to validate God..well maybe..but lets not forget that Jesus himself said signs and wonders shall follow them that believe...and after raising Lazarus (if am not mistaken now.will check) he also says that greater things works than these they shall perform those that believe..so its God Himself who prescribed these when it is written in the Bible..surely why should pple find it difficult when the Bible itself prescribes it..so need we question such...l dont know...imwe noise seems to emanate from thoose who can not show for their belief...ndo zvinonetsa....but the truth is that if u follow history n the bible you will find that a pattern is emerging..whereby..there are dispensations...where if God reveals himself powerfully through certain individuals in a particular dispensation there will always be an outcry such as this from the pple of that generation..and they deny it even if its written in the scriptures avakabata...it happened during Jesus' time...l ve also noticed that if God revels Himself in a particular way in a particular dispensation the next dispensation does not recognise or accept..Him in the next dispensation coz they d ve monopolised Him in their own generation and put him in a box and say He only comes this way..eg the religious Jews refused to accept Jesus...then the Church of the olden days came then pentecostalism came and many left the mainline churches which condemned the charismatic movement..then the charismatics who thought they had it all now feel challenged once again..they forget that they were at one time at the receiving end of the main line churches...just do some bit of research and you will notice thi s pattern...so am not really surprised by the outcry

Anyone remembers Gilbert Deya, check below...................




Miracle Babies Bishop Arrested

A self-styled bishop at the centre of a baby-smuggling probe has been arrested and is facing the boot from Scotland.

Gilbert Deya claims to have helped infertile women give birth to "miracle babies" by prayer.

The millionaire preacher, who was wanted on an international
warrant for questioning over a child trafficking ring in his native
Kenya, was spotted at Edinburgh Sheriff Court last week.

Iwe don't be silly...goats & people differ in their gestation period!! Besides, the point is we're not looking for 3-day miracles!! Saka Jesu angadai akangodonha kubva mudenga zvee??!!
Furthermore, how much of a miracle is it for s/body already having 2 children to have a 3rd child??!! You must open your minds and question yourself: does this "miracle" really glorify God??!!

The births & pregnancies of Jesus [by Mary] & John the Baptist [by Elizabeth] were very closely related. Luke 1:36 says Elizabeth was "...now in her 6th month". Then Luke 1:56 says " Mary stayed with Elizabeth about three months...". Therefore, by inference, the gestation period for Jesus, just like for John, was the usual 9 MONTHS. Izvi zvema 3 DAYS ndezve kupenga uye ndezve madhimoni/zvikwambo!!

In the Bible "miracle" births generally fell into these categories:

[a] a FIRST child for a couple that was way too old, and the woman past her menopause e.g. the birth of Isaac to Abraham & Sarah at 100 years & 90 years respectively (Genesis 21)

[b] when the woman was said to be "barren" e.g. the birth of Joseph to Leah & Jacob (Genesis 30)

[c] the "inexplicable" birth of Jesus Christ via a virgin (Luke 1-2)

In all these cases, one can explain or understand why the birth would be called "miraculous" [because a natural/scientific law/principle was being broken]. However, I can NOT understand why the birth of a child to a couple that ALREADY has 2 other children can be termed a miracle, the alleged 3 days gestation period notwithstanding!!

Don't be silly, sister!!...if you are really genuine, why do you call yourself "daughter of Makandiwa" instead of "daughter of God"??!! Saka mbiri yako iri kuenda kuna Makandiwa here kana kuna Mwari!! Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why the bible warns against the careless use of the word "father" to address anybody other than your biological/earthly father?? Put your faith in God and not men!!

Ma"quads" acho anenge ari vana chaivo here kana kuti zvikwambo??!! As far as I know vana vezvikwambo do not live long, so let's start counting....

Wambozvibvunzawo here kuti hindava uri "mwana waMakandiwa" kwete "mwana waMwari"?? Mbiri iri kuenda kunashe here kana kumunhuwo zvake wenyama??!!

Jimalo there are a lot of questions in the naration of this story firstly the woman says the stomach suddenly ballooned in the combi the question is was she nt scared? even crying bcoz this was unexpected or even thinking that death has arrived coz she says they got surprised????? and also wt abt those in the combi infact the story shld be narated by those in the combi since they will be surprised or even in the newspaper or radio since this was strange i mean the stomach ballooming suddenly??????. Again this woman ddnt need a child according to her narration y wld God perform a miracle on someone who is not in need of it yet there r women who r barren as we speak n r in nd of the miracle, i know u will say tt God knows bt this defys all logic n wt these facts i believe this woman is lying....In the Bible God performed miracles on those who were in need ie Sarah barren Elkana barren with no child this women had two children yyyyy?????????? Except tt she is lying

well l can not defend her..all l know is what she said she went through,.whether she is lying and for what reasons l wouldnt know..lm not in a position to say she is lying...maybe you ve good reasons to say so....u speak of logic....but our minds are too small for God what constitutes logic...to is does not necessarily do so when it comes to God....mind you God has a far more bigger picture than...its like a pilot who is given instructions by an Air Traffic Controller...the pilot (ie us) only has a limited view..but the ATC has a bigger picture and sees what the pilot does not see...you say that the woman didnt need children coz she had two already..really? but l understand she stood up to join others when the call was made....God sees our future which we do not...and for every thing that happens he has a purpose that we may not understand.....for instance do you know or have you yourself discovered the purpose for which you were created? ( as for me its with God and other that l am beginning to discover my purpose in life) (my point is we need to find out from God what our own purpose is..what more with others) maybe He has a purpose for the said child even if the mother as you say did not need other children...who knows what that child will grow up to become..remember God is not finished with His plans..for this nation for you or for me...

uyu munana haubatsiri chinhu becoz wakaitirwa kumacouples asina dambudzike rembereko

uyu munana haubatsiri chinhu becoz wakaitirwa kumacouples asina dambudziko rembereko

Jimalo i think your mind is also brain washed like all those fools who believe that a baby can be born in 3days.There is no such kind of Miracle evenif you look in to the bible there are some thing which you can not make a miracle on espicial when the real son of God dd not perform them at all.The bible real state that a normal process of a child birth will be done and Jesus Christ who was born from a miracle preginancy Marry had to go through the nine mnth. So no man on this earth can do a miracle which Jesus have never done. So for record check if you watch the scary movie you see people having these vempire baby that the some thing with that lady she is carring chikwambo Chamakandiwa.So for thew people of Zimbabwe to believe these so called miracles that the some thing like believing that people where makudo before.What i want you to do is to go read your bible and do not believe everything you hear espicial people like Makandiwa. Those guys are used by the Devil that why there have so many followers like you.Kana wakambodzwa kuti munhu azvara nyoka that the some thing with all this.If it was so simple to have a baby then all peolple without babies will go and have 3day babies. What you must do is to campain for the arrest of these Devil advocates

Kunyepa, that's not a baby that's some crazy kalukalele

This is a lie, murume aisungirwa nhumbu, i dont think mwana ndewake.
This is dubious and smells of satanism

Imi munofunga kuti vese vanotora nine months kuzvara havadiwo 3 day pregnancies.Open your eyes people for a foetus to grow it takes many many days in their mothers womb.

Is anything too hard for God? Why do you question God's ability, he is able to do exceedingly, abundantly, above anything you can think of. Why do you want to limit God, remember @ one time he told the Israelites that they limited the Holy one of Israel by asking , can God furnish a table in the wilderness. i don't blame you, the carnal man cannot understand things of the spirit. Before comenting, you so called christians, whom are you criticising? The human being or the annointing perfoming miracles. Remember Jesus said, if you sin against him (Jesus), you will be forgiven if you sin against the father (God) you will be forgiven, but if you sin against the holy spirit you will not be forgiven. The working of miracles is a spiritual gift. Chenjera kutuka annointing yauchada kuti ikushandire mangwana.

Vakaba mwana vanhu ava

hanti for something to qualify as a miracle it has to have some element of defying nature here nhai mhofu...ko inogozonzi miracle papi if it does not defy nature

ha get away mhani imi,chisatanism chamurikuda kupractisa icho,gomo ibva apa uyende apo ndozvamurikuda kuita imi stupid

Tikaramba tichi vasekerera vanhu ava vachaenderera! I am serious.

Iwewe ndiwe wakapenga vanhu ava imhata pamhata pavo vese dzese idzi ndidzo mhata.
Pamhata pavo Ana miracle baby.That's not a baby dat a goblin motherfuckers

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